I independently computed the same scores as yours. Congrats on snatching the 3rd spot from Stage 2 and qualifying to another MM Final, @vdave! (should be official as soon as the Cognitive State Determination MM points are also added to the official Stage 2 leaderboard). And sorry to @RafbillFr, @nika and @ap31, who were all very close! I wish them good luck in the remaining stages.
@ufo_believer A friendly ping about final Stage 2 results, the Cognitive State marathon has final results for some time. I've seen that the Stage 3 leaderboard had also been populated now, but without a final Stage 2 ranking that may also be incorrect.
Hey guys, we have updated the leaderboard now. regarding the issue with many members having 1 points, as we checked it doesn't have any effect on the leaderboard results tself. So we decided not to make any changes to the current leaderboard and follow these steps from upcoming Marathon matches, thank you, and again we apologise for the delay, we will try to keep up now .. thanks..
Thanks, @ufo_believer, one last thing. With the changes, now I would advance to the finals from Stage 2, which means I should not be getting any points for Stage 3 (where I'm still listed with 40 points from MM132).
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Fri, May 13, 2022 at 01:54 PM edited May 14, 2022 at 01:56 PM
I see that the stage 3 leaderboard was updated. However it seems incomplete to me.
vdave is still listed with 40 points despite already being qualified from stage 2 (which affects the points of everyone ranked below vdave in MM132)
not all players are considered for MM134 and Nasa Comet Detection. e.g. yowa and myself got points for MM134 while simanman and nika didn't. ~(this has been solved now) Same for the Comet Detection where ceres1 got points but selim_sef doesn't show up in stage 3.
I made my own computations now: https://eulerschezahl.github.io/Topcoder/
The hardest part for me is to tell which contest gives TCO points and which doesn't, so you can turn them on and off. Points are then recomputed via Javascript.
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Tue, May 17, 2022 at 03:17 PM edited May 17, 2022 at 03:18 PM
I think your computation still makes one of the mistakes from the official leaderboard, namely that based on the rules only position #30 gets 1 point and not everyone who participated. If a stage had N matches, there can be at most N people with exactly 1 point.
This is not 100% accurate either as tie could lead to more than one person getting 1 point.
But otherwise yes, only the top 30 should get points, Top Coder made this mistake in stage 1 I believe (while it had/has no impact on the final top 3, it was/is indeed a mistake)
@vdave the official rules say "All other positive scores: 1 Point" below the score distribution. @sullyper interesting, MM130 shows as stage 2 for me. I think it's a problem with the time zone. Topcoder didn't mention which one is to be considered for the stage boundaries. In my local time it's Oct 1st but it can definitely be September for you. I'll correct this. @ufo_believer thank you for the background info, that's a sad story indeed.
Funny enough, it shows as 2021-10-01.
I would assume they are using EST or ET timezone, but as it starts at 1:00 am ET, it should have been the same day on the pacific.
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I independently computed the same scores as yours. Congrats on snatching the 3rd spot from Stage 2 and qualifying to another MM Final, @vdave! (should be official as soon as the Cognitive State Determination MM points are also added to the official Stage 2 leaderboard). And sorry to @RafbillFr, @nika and @ap31, who were all very close! I wish them good luck in the remaining stages.
Thanks, @mugurelionut, given the lots of delays and uncertainty around Marathons lately, I rather wait the official announcement before celebrating.
@ufo_believer A friendly ping about final Stage 2 results, the Cognitive State marathon has final results for some time. I've seen that the Stage 3 leaderboard had also been populated now, but without a final Stage 2 ranking that may also be incorrect.
Hey @vdave, We will update the leaderboard by the end of today, sorry for the delay !
Hey guys, we have updated the leaderboard now. regarding the issue with many members having 1 points, as we checked it doesn't have any effect on the leaderboard results tself. So we decided not to make any changes to the current leaderboard and follow these steps from upcoming Marathon matches, thank you, and again we apologise for the delay, we will try to keep up now .. thanks..
Thanks, @ufo_believer, one last thing. With the changes, now I would advance to the finals from Stage 2, which means I should not be getting any points for Stage 3 (where I'm still listed with 40 points from MM132).
yes we will redo the scores for stage 3..
I see that the stage 3 leaderboard was updated. However it seems incomplete to me.
I made my own computations now: https://eulerschezahl.github.io/Topcoder/
The hardest part for me is to tell which contest gives TCO points and which doesn't, so you can turn them on and off. Points are then recomputed via Javascript.
I think your computation still makes one of the mistakes from the official leaderboard, namely that based on the rules only position #30 gets 1 point and not everyone who participated. If a stage had N matches, there can be at most N people with exactly 1 point.
This is not 100% accurate either as tie could lead to more than one person getting 1 point.
But otherwise yes, only the top 30 should get points, Top Coder made this mistake in stage 1 I believe (while it had/has no impact on the final top 3, it was/is indeed a mistake)
MM130 belongs to stage 2 and not stage 1
Hey @eulerschezahl,
selim_sef is not on the leaderboard as he is from belarus, and unfortunately we had to exclude him.
@vdave the official rules say "All other positive scores: 1 Point" below the score distribution.
@sullyper interesting, MM130 shows as stage 2 for me. I think it's a problem with the time zone. Topcoder didn't mention which one is to be considered for the stage boundaries. In my local time it's Oct 1st but it can definitely be September for you. I'll correct this.
@ufo_believer thank you for the background info, that's a sad story indeed.
Funny enough, it shows as 2021-10-01.
I would assume they are using EST or ET timezone, but as it starts at 1:00 am ET, it should have been the same day on the pacific.
I see, this everyone gets a point is then new in the rules in 2022, in previous years only the top 30 got points. On the other hand, I believe MM130 was definitely Stage 2, it started on Oct 13 (https://discussions.topcoder.com/discussion/11891/oct21-marathon-matches-tco21-finals-tco22-stage-2-matches). I believe the match entry was created Oct 1 (maybe even Sep 30 in some timezones), but submission started on Oct 13.